Peg Mulqueen; Ashtanga teacher, magazine editor, podcaster and more

This episode contains occasional profanity.

Peg Mulqueen began practicing yoga 17 years ago, after her kickboxing class and she would leave before savasana because taking a break in life didn’t make sense to her. She started teaching yoga because the regular teacher was pregnant. After that, she began studying yoga sequences and only then did she look for a teacher training program. Two years later, she opened up a yoga studio. She emphatically states that this is the wrong way to go about it, now that she knows. But, that was her path.

Peg speaks frankly about her frustration with the present yoga system: churning out teachers in packaged programs. She gives a new idea for a business model for yoga studios that could replace the teacher certification program; it is an on-going relationship between students and the teacher or studio. People crave knowledge and that is often why many of enter teacher training. This business model is not really new, it is based on the old way of study; one on one.

Being a yoga teacher is not a great business model because it is about the people, not about the money. And so many people now think big and that can be their downfall. Peg encourages teachers to start small. Students care more about relationships. Invest in people, not in overhead.

Peg explains that Ashtanga is a breathing method, not a physical practice.

On a whim, she and her daughter created a magazine called Ashtanga Dispatch. From the magazine, the podcast soon followed with the help of Chris Lucas. There is also a blog that Peg occasionally writes in. All these can be found at the website,

Blog Post: Why (Almost) Everything you Learned in Teacher Training is Wrong

She mentioned Samantha Lucas, a woman who practiced Ashtanga Yoga and is missing the lower part of one leg. You can learn more about her on her Facebook page.

Special Thanks to Zo Leroux for the introduction. A big thanks to 13 Hands for allowing us to use the song, Big Love in the musical opening and closing of this episode.

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Part 2 of the interview with 13 Hands: Grammy nominated musician, yoga professor and a fun guy to talk to

This is the second episode of two. The first episode was released immediately before this one.

Yoga is about freedom and doing right by your tribe. – 13 Hands

This episode contains occasional profanity.

The conversation jumps around to many different topics, including his process of learning his own body. He tells about spending hours reading about how the body works and using medical literature to show Doctors how wrong their opinions are.

He gives us a Business 101 course on getting into yoga, from an artist’s perspective. He talks about showing up to teach a workshop where there were only 2 students and teaching anyway. He explains how to get a base income, seeking out supplemental business and the importance of marketing. He talks about how to present your information, depending on who you are talking to. That you should figure out what you are good at and build off of it and to consider when it is better to partner and when it is better to run, solo.

To learn more about 13 Hands:



Ted Talk YouTube: Music for healing, from a “calm type-A” personality

And, of course, we appreciate 13 Hands for the conversation and for providing the music at the beginning and end of the episode.

Some of the different people and places that were mentioned in the conversation:

Mount Eden Retreat Center in Washington, NJ

SuperSoul Farm in Canaan, NY

SuperSoul Yoga in Chatham, NY

International Association of Yoga Therapists (IAYT)

Dr. Michael Schachter in Suffern, NY

Tantris, the clothing line and studio of Russell Simmons

200HR Therapeutic Yoga Teacher Training at Kula Kamala Foundation and Yoga Ashram

A few of the books that were mentioned in the conversation:

Heal Your Body by Louise Hay, Success Through Stillness by Russell Simmons, Yoga & Ayurveda by David Frawley

13 Hands, aka Dalien (part 1): Grammy nominated musician, yoga professor and a fun guy to talk to

13 Hands aka Dalien

Grammy nominated musician, yoga professor and a fun guy to talk with

This episode contains the occasional profanity.

The conversation is split into two episodes. The second part will be posted soon.

Dalien is the yang of this man; the business man and the hustler. 13 Hands is the yin; the yoga teacher and the musician.

Found yoga when he was fighting a series of diseases, taking care of sick grandparents and trying to work a handful of jobs. ESPN brought him yoga from 6-9AM and he followed it religiously.

Dalien talks about some of the challenges throughout his life that shaped him; dealing with the trauma of a head injury as a child, losing his father at 15 and losing nearly all of his possessions 2 years ago.

Have a plan, but be sure that you are flexible enough to adapt to what opportunity comes your way.

Find the balance in the yoga – relationship between the root and the spirit.

Make sure that every dollar you earn is an honorable dollar.

His yoga class: conversational with laughter and anatomical details. Each class is specific to the students that show up so there is no plan before the class begins. Each class ends with music.

Dalien gives us a Business 101 course on getting into yoga, from an artist’s perspective.

To learn more about Dalien and links to some of the information he mentioned in our conversation:



Ted Talk YouTube: Music for healing, from a “calm type-A” personality

USA Shaolin Temple in NYC

Hippocrates Health Institute

Kula Kamala Foundation & Yoga Ashram (therapeutic yoga education)

Thank you, Zo Leroux for the introduction. Zo is a traveling teacher based loosely in Quebec, Canada.

And, of course, we appreciate 13 Hands for the conversation as well as providing the musical open and close to the episode.

Alia Khan; How a Recovering Lawyer becomes a studio owner

Alia Khan and I conducted this interview at Wanderlust in Snowshoe, WV. She is a yoga teacher and owns a yoga studio in Washington D.C. She found herself in the business of yoga after becoming dissatisfied with her job as an attorney. The motivation came from understanding the difference between being comfortable and being happy. Alia talks about the removal of the religion from yoga without taking away the spirituality, and why, as a Muslim/Indian/American that is so important to her. She offers some ideas why yoga is different than a regular workout and explains why she instructs in a very detailed and exacting manner. While the opportunity to open a yoga studio presented itself without seeking it, Alia talks about the planning and challenges of that process. The importance of being paid for what you are worth. She addresses the work ethic required for the owner of a studio, her rituals and also the importance of taking time away. Alia gets a little vulnerable and opens up about her pre-bedtime ritual.

As Alia puts it, she teaches real yoga for real people and is on a mission to bring yoga to people who think that it isn’t for them. If you enjoyed hearing Alia’s story, there are lots of ways that you can connect with her. First and foremost, she runs a yoga studio in Washington D.C. called East Side Yoga.  Her various social media are listed below including her spotify accout so that you can listen to her playlists. She has recently started a blog which is also below. And, she is running an alignment-focused 200HR Yoga Teacher Training this fall at her studio, so be sure to reach out to her if that is of interest to you.



Spotify – alia0628

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